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Comics Reporter article

  • May. 12th, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Von in toque
Tom Spurgeon wrote a thought-provoking piece on the current pricing of comics (the periodical floppy kind). I generally tend to skim these things, mainly because of my book retail background. I started in books when it was still common to see a mass market pocket book priced at $5.99 Canadian. At this time (circa '94), the high price was around $7.99 CDN. In just a few years later, this was pushed to $9.99. Then crossed the "ten dollar barrier" to hit $10.99 CDN. Then $11.99 CDN.

That periodical comics have risen in price the same way in the same time period really doesn't surprise me. I don't like it, mind you, but it doesn't surprise me. So I started reading Spurgeon's article with that sense of "here we go again - more bitching." But that would be doing both him and the article a disservice. I don't agree with every point (see below), but there's some really thought-provoking stuff in there.

Bits like:

The fact that a Buffy the Vampire Slayer comic book can break into the Diamond top ten doesn't seem to me as important as the certainty we will never return to an historical moment when a significant number of creator-owned books could sell 6500 or 9000 or 12000 copies, you could count on their presence in most major markets, and creators had a chance -- only a chance -- to build the beginnings of a career interacting with a readership multiple times a year over a several-year period, all without having to earn back an advance. I would argue it's more important to the general health of the art form and the industry that the next Jeff Smith be able to generate 30,000 in comic book sales than it is that Marvel moves 130,000 units with Stephen King's name on them. I'm not sure the existing Jeff Smith gets to that sales point without some struggle. And I don't think it's as easy as the on-line comic replacing the serial comic as the entry point; that's a seismic shift in culture and in the nature of the reading experience for me to believe it does exactly the same thing. In fact, I would argue that as a group the current on-line comics models come closer to encouraging a medium more like comic books in the 1940s than comics in the 1960s or 1980s.

and...

I'll take it all back if in 10 years the sons and daughters of the bookstore and the free comic on-line can boast of as many great cartoonists in their generation as the Direct Market babies are now able to point to in theirs, and if they have as many readers who know and care enough about their medium of choice to make an eloquent case on those artists' behalf.

So yeah, if you have 5 or 10 minutes I'd suggesting reading the entire thing.

Von

*So what don't I agree with? Well, it's mainly how Spurgeon tries to tie inflation into the pricing mix. This might not be an issue if he also noted how the various costs have gone up, especially on the paper side for offset print runs. Prices have gone up in print media all across the board (comics, books, newspapers, etc...). If, for example, 50 lb. paper has also outpaced inflation, I'd like to have seen that referenced.

Inflation out of context is a difficult thing to prove. The Boston Globe cost 2 cents in 1918. According to this CPI Inflation Calculator, it should cost have cost 25 cents in 2004. It actually cost 50 cents in '04 (same article), more than double the estimate. And newsprint is a pretty inferior paper stock when compared to periodical comics. Without taking into account how varied inflation is in a particular industry (in this case, print media), I think the argument loses quite a bit of merit.

A good example of what I mean is Jeff Smith. While citing Smith in the article, he doesn't go into why Smith priced RASL #1 at $3.50 US. I don't mean to single Smith out, but RASL is a black and white book on crap paper. And since Smith told the ComicsPRO folks that #1 sold around 24,000 copies, some exploration on this front would seem to be worthwhile. Should Smith have priced it cheaper?

Not, I stress to add, that I have a problem with Smith pricing RASL at whatever he wants. Far from it. But it's hard to buy the inflation argument without a look at how costs have risen over the past 15 years.




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Comments

[info]ericadams wrote:
May. 13th, 2008 04:45 am (UTC)
That was a good read. Thanks for pointing it out.
[info]vonandmoggy wrote:
May. 13th, 2008 12:42 pm (UTC)
You post and I don't get the nifty hat icon? Damn you, Adams! :)

Von
[info]ericadams wrote:
May. 13th, 2008 12:49 pm (UTC)
HA. I'm not one of those icon people. I just choose a default and let it ride.
[info]vonandmoggy wrote:
May. 13th, 2008 01:21 pm (UTC)
Heh. You and me both. Moggy on the other hand...! :)

Von
[info]rono64 wrote:
May. 13th, 2008 11:32 am (UTC)
My feeling on the matter is, when we switched to a "collectors" market from a "readers" market and switched to glossy expensive paper and hight end printing, this has driven the price up.
Now if you plan to do a high end glossy book, more power to you, but if you want mass market readership, then back to the cheap-o newsprint and lower the price and shoot for quantity.
Look at the Japan, cheap printed friggin' phonebook sized comics, they do 'em cheap and even sell them in vending machines.
That's my 2 cents on the high price of comics, I just don't see how kids can afford comics today.
[info]kuzu_no_ha wrote:
May. 13th, 2008 01:19 pm (UTC)
"I just don't see how kids can afford comics today"

yeah I don't either.
Growing up I was never allowed to buy them often because they were "too expensive".
I can't imagine how they buy them now.
[info]vonandmoggy wrote:
May. 13th, 2008 01:29 pm (UTC)
Yup, I wouldn't argue with anything here.

You also said: "Now if you plan to do a high end glossy book, more power to you, but if you want mass market readership, then back to the cheap-o newsprint and lower the price and shoot for quantity."

This is why I would have liked to have seen Spurgeon explore pricing a bit more with RASL. It is a cheap book (not quite newsprint paper but close) and black and white, to boot. Smith is certainly not printing in the quantity of what a Marvel or DC regularly can, but 24,000 sold indicates a pretty high print run and a corresponding lower per copy cost.

Personally, I suspect that the pricing bar for indies is now at $3.50 or $3.99 US and that's the new reality.

One other thing worth a mention (and Spurgeon does touch on it): retailers like to earn as much per copy as possible. I certainly did. A low priced comic, regardless of whether it's indy or from Marvel/DC, earns them that much less per copy. I know some retailers complained when Ellis' Fell came out at $1.99 US for exactly this reason.

But yeah, the days that a kid can take ten bucks to a comic shop and walk out with boatload of new comics are gone. They might if they stick to a quarter bin, but that stuff isn't fresh and new.

Von
(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 14th, 2008 03:55 pm (UTC)
I can't speak to colour print costs, I looked into it recently and much too expensive for me to do it AND market it. But from what I have been told, the difference between printing on Newsprint and glossy stock is not that huge a difference in price.

But I have printed the odd B&W comic over a ten year stretch, and in my experience the price hasn't changed significantly for a run of 2000 to 4000 copies. Maybe I should actually compare all my price quotes over the years to see if there is a difference, but Lebonfon's price quote stayed the same from 1997 until 2004. It was only when the switch over to digital output direct to plates happened that they changed their price breakdown as there was no longer a film cost.

Still, the overall cost hasn't changed significantly.

I imagine Jeff Smith's pricing hike is to make up for lost revenue due to lower sales, or simply the same reason as the retailers - why leave money on the table when you don't have too. For years $2.99 was the highest the market will bear, but that price has gone up.

The real issue with price hikes, I think, is simply due to lower sales. I don't think there is a single self-published B&W comic book outside of RASL and ECHO that has come out in the last ten years that has been financially successful. And most mainstream titles are selling the numbers that indies used to sell.

I've got no solutions, I'm afraid.

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